tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2348464617577736454.post7156306941577559432..comments2024-03-28T21:39:05.175+08:00Comments on Senang Diri: S'pore won't allow Indonesian ship "Usman Harun" to call at its ports - CNADavid Boeyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11401913253357584603noreply@blogger.comBlogger65125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2348464617577736454.post-23509027981232789362014-02-26T20:44:35.503+08:002014-02-26T20:44:35.503+08:00Speaking generally, both the Chinese and the Singa...Speaking generally, both the Chinese and the Singaporeans have been constituted as subjects embodying very intensive materialistic desires, although the respective trajectories leading to such desirousness are different. It is commonly agreed that Singapore is a very success-oriented/obsessed society, and Singaporeans often mock themselves for being too kiasu. The problem is, however, that the Chinese come across as even more kiasu, if my previous section on the ‘fighting mentality’ makes some sense. What many Singaporeans are annoyed about the Chinese is precisely the latter’s (perceived) excessive or "disgusting" level of kiasu-ness.<br /><br />When two kiasu peoples come face-to-face, competition and tension occur by definition. While Singaporeans often look down on the coarse and underprivileged Chinese guest workers and lowly immigrants, they may also become a tad uncomfortable with those who are doing too well. In the school campus, this may be the ‘PRC scholars’ who seem to grab all the scholarships and ‘A’s; otherwise, for example, the Ferrari driven by Ma Chi cannot be said to have played no role in the society’s reaction to his case.<br /><br />But more interestingly, in the encounter between two kiasu subjects, there may arise a form of denial and willful misrecognition, which seems to be at the core of the tension and mutual prejudice between the Chinese and Singaporeans in today’s situation. While the Singaporeans are previously quite relaxed with using a bit of kiasu-related self-deprecation - that is to say they are previously willing to half-jokingly call themselves kiasu - when now, confronted by an exaggerated and ‘over-the-top’ version of kiasu-ness, which they see as embodied by the ‘PRCs’, they instead feel horrified, and react by wanting to keep as clear from this horrible figure as possible. The embarrassment or guilt about being kiasu that is felt consciously or unconsciously by Singaporeans make them tend to focus on exactly the kiasu aspects of the Chinese immigrants, so that, by showing there is someone even more grotesquely kiasu, the previous embarrassment or guilt may be relieved or absolved. (In psychoanalysis, this is a process called "projective identification", made famous by Melanie Klein.)<br /><br />Thus, one of the things that young Chinese Singaporeans seem most keen to avoid when traveling abroad is being mistaken for mainland Chinese. The need to disassociate from ‘PRC-ness’ is so urgent, precisely because the danger of being mistaken always seems so imminent. (By the way, this anxiety over being mistaken does not apply to just the Singaporeans, but often equally applies to Chinese who consider themselves more cosmopolitan, better educated or otherwise superior to the ‘PRC country bumpkins’.)<br /><br />Some while ago, I observed a Singaporean girl talking about her traveling experience in Europe, and she recalled her experience of being mistaken as ‘from China’ with both amusement and emphatic irritation. Interestingly, this diametrically contrasts with former prime minister Lee Kuan Yew’s evocative account about a very similar experience when he was young, which he recounted in his memoir My Lifelong Challenge: Singapore's Bilingual Journey. In Mr Lee’s case, he regarded being labeled ‘from China’ as an epiphany moment about his cultural-ethnically Chinese identity.<br /><br />While the contrast between the perspectives of Mr Lee and an ordinary Singaporean girl of today is telling of the journey Singapore has traveled, perhaps it remains the case that the anxiety or danger of being misrecognised as ‘Chinese’ lies at the heart of Singapore’s insecurity and struggle with identity. And this is one more reason why Singaporeans and the Chinese don’t always get along.<br /><br />PS: anyway if you go to Geylang I bet you still choose PRC ;pAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2348464617577736454.post-17959862871389173802014-02-26T20:42:56.679+08:002014-02-26T20:42:56.679+08:00Arriving in Singapore with the notion that Singapo...Arriving in Singapore with the notion that Singapore is a society governed by rules and laws (fazhi shehui, as opposed to China, which is seen as governed by people, renzhi), some Chinese may find their readiness to fight obsolete - this is usually the case with the more privileged and highly-skilled ones; while the less privileged ones may believe that in a more regulated society like Singapore, ‘fighting’ would work even more effectively. Thus, we have the Chinese construction workers who climbed onto cranes as a protest and the SMRT bus drivers who went on a strike.<br /><br />I need to stress here, as people probably already know, that the rules in Singapore outlawing certain forms of industrial actions have their own historical backgrounds and philosophical reasoning; but this is a separate topic altogether which I shall not deal with. I do not want to pass judgment over the Chinese workers’ strikes as right or wrong, but merely seek to explain, from a cultural point of view, their actions to those Singaporeans who were/are apparently disturbed or offended by their actions.<br /><br />When the "air-conditioned" (borrowing a phrase from scholar Cherian George) Singaporeans, who have mostly relied on an efficient government and a well-regulated social system for their well-being, encounter the immigrant Chinese who, in sharp contrast, have survived big and small things in life through a readiness to fight, it is perhaps small wonder that some Singaporeans feel threatened or even feel themselves outmaneuvered/marginalised; neither of these scenarios, in my opinion, is likely to be objectively true, now or in the future.<br /><br />This cultural specificity pertaining to the Chinese may also, to some extent, explain why Singaporeans seem less threatened or bothered by immigrants from some other developing nation backgrounds. This is of course not the only reason; Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2348464617577736454.post-61780391978868722802014-02-26T20:41:57.451+08:002014-02-26T20:41:57.451+08:00If this "century of fighting" has left s...If this "century of fighting" has left some marks on the contemporary Chinese psyche, that aspect of the psyche may involve a belief in fighting in order to survive and achieve goals, instead of placing one’s hope or trust in a system or government. One either has to fight and win, or lose out big time. The PRC’s founder Mao Zedong himself was a stern believer in life as constant revolution and constant fighting.<br /><br />Note, this is of course not to say that in China, everybody treats everybody else like enemies; if anything, compared to societies with more liberal individualistic values (including Singapore), the Chinese place even more emphasis on interpersonal cordiality, face (mianzi), and guanxi. But at the level of society at large, the abstract and impersonal trust is in deficit: Everybody else is potentially an enemy that one has to either fight or convert into one’s own ally in order to fight somebody else.<br /><br />At the level of grand politics, we may turn to China’s relatively assertive stance in international relations to get a clue about this belief in conflict and "might is right". At the level of popular culture, we only need to look at the recent Chinese TV drama series Empresses in the Palace (Hougong Zhenhuan Zhuan) and its staggering popularity in China to have a glimpse into this conflict-based life philosophy and practical world-view among many Chinese.<br /><br />In the post-Mao Chinese society, this ‘philosophy of fighting’ continues to shape the broad contours of social interaction and public culture, albeit in a period of ideological pragmatism and increasing economic prosperity and liberty. Fighting for oneself is still essential, firstly because many Chinese don’t believe rules or laws can sufficiently protect them, secondly because they believe that everybody else is also fighting so one must not be weak. But this time, the ultimate goal of fighting comprises primarily material interests.<br /><br />Dishonest sellers and manufacturers of daily consumer goods and their immoral business behaviour convince many ordinary Chinese that they need to fight for their own food safety and other consumer rights; government actions that don’t always pay sufficient regard to human rights or other lawful interests convince many ordinary Chinese citizens that they must be able to fight so that they are not ‘run over’. This is quite literally the case in the enforced demolishment of properties (chai qian) that has been controversial in many places all over China in this age of massive modernisation; some private property owners would lie down in the road so the bulldozer cannot proceed to demolish their house.<br /><br />It is very important to note that the topography of the ‘fighting mentality’ among the Chinese is highly complex: the privileged might find it unnecessary to fight, while the underprivileged have to fight fiercely because life is stacked against them; different people also have different ways of ‘fighting’ - for aspiring students, studying ferociously could be their kind of ‘fight’.<br /><br />And fighting, of course, works — at least sometimes. Since rules and laws seem ultimately man-made and bendable, a lot then depends on one’s own fighting and aggressiveness. So, we hear of the Chinese visitor some time ago who arrived in Singapore without proper immigration papers, but who resisted deportation by "making a scene" at the airport. "Making a scene" in some life situations in China is the expected thing to do, because not doing it means weakness and foolishness.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2348464617577736454.post-60132326103526355052014-02-26T20:41:08.471+08:002014-02-26T20:41:08.471+08:00The reason for such perceived behaviour of the Chi...The reason for such perceived behaviour of the Chinese - insofar as there is some basis in such observations - is socio-historical as well as politico-economic. The 20th Century has been one of extreme turbulence and upheavals for China and its people: from the republic revolution to foreign invasion to civil war to communist revolution to the Cultural Revolution and finally to the post-socialist reform. In the course of this tortuous and turbulent century, the Chinese people have fought foreigners, but have more often fought amongst themselves. Chinese of different localities, ethnicities and ideological beliefs have fought against each other; and, worst of all, in the Cultural Revolution, sometimes family members and close friends and colleagues had had to fight each other in the name of ‘Revolution’. These fights are not just in the metaphorical sense of the word; sometimes they were real blood and tooth fights.<br /><br />If this "century of fighting" has left some marks on the contemporary Chinese psyche, that aspect of the psyche may involve a belief in fighting in order to survive and achieve goals, instead of placing one’s hope or trust in a system or government. One either has to fight and win, or lose out big time. The PRC’s founder Mao Zedong himself was a stern believer in life as constant revolution and constant fighting.<br /><br />Note, this is of course not to say that in China, everybody treats everybody else like enemies; if anything, compared to societies with more liberal individualistic values (including Singapore), the Chinese place even more emphasis on interpersonal cordiality, face (mianzi), and guanxi. But at the level of society at large, the abstract and impersonal trust is in deficit: Everybody else is potentially an enemy that one has to either fight or convert into one’s own ally in order to fight somebody else.<br /><br />At the level of grand politics, we may turn to China’s relatively assertive stance in international relations to get a clue about this belief in conflict and "might is right". At the level of popular culture, we only need to look at the recent Chinese TV drama series Empresses in the Palace (Hougong Zhenhuan Zhuan) and its staggering popularity in China to have a glimpse into this conflict-based life philosophy and practical world-view among many Chinese.<br /><br />In the post-Mao Chinese society, this ‘philosophy of fighting’ continues to shape the broad contours of social interaction and public culture, albeit in a period of ideological pragmatism and increasing economic prosperity and liberty. Fighting for oneself is still essential, firstly because many Chinese don’t believe rules or laws can sufficiently protect them, secondly because they believe that everybody else is also fighting so one must not be weak. But this time, the ultimate goal of fighting comprises primarily material interests.<br /><br />Dishonest sellers and manufacturers of daily consumer goods and their immoral business behaviour convince many ordinary Chinese that they need to fight for their own food safety and other consumer rights; government actions that don’t always pay sufficient regard to human rights or other lawful interests convince many ordinary Chinese citizens that they must be able to fight so that they are not ‘run over’. This is quite literally the case in the enforced demolishment of properties (chai qian) that has been controversial in many places all over China in this age of massive modernisation; some private property owners would lie down in the road so the bulldozer cannot proceed to demolish their house.<br /><br />It is very important to note that the topography of the ‘fighting mentality’ among the Chinese is highly complex: the privileged might find it unnecessary to fight, while the underprivileged have to fight fiercely because life is stacked against them; different people also have different ways of ‘fighting’ - for aspiring students, studying ferociously could be their kind of ‘fight’.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2348464617577736454.post-56582491224148239722014-02-26T20:34:11.994+08:002014-02-26T20:34:11.994+08:00Why Chinese nationals and S'poreans don't ...Why Chinese nationals and S'poreans don't always get along<br /><br />Short answer: Two Kiasu BUAY GAM<br /><br />Long answer:<br /><br />What might be behind the perceived rudeness or ‘country bumpkin’ image of some Chinese immigrants in Singapore? And can the tension between the Chinese and Singaporeans be explained as a kind of ‘sibling rivalry’ as some people seem to suggest?<br /><br />In dealing with such a topic, some degree of generalisation is unavoidable. I am aware of the pitfalls of essentialism and Orientalism, but that does not mean we cannot speak of certain socio-culturally shaped behaviours and subjectivities. Statements like “the Chinese are such and such…” or “the Singaporeans are such and such…” are inherently problematic, but have to be used from time to time if one is to talk about these issues at all.<br /><br />So I crave the readers’ indulgence in bearing with me, while recognising—and recognising that I do recognise too—that social facts are always complicated and nuanced. Again, in my following discussion, I shall be primarily concerned with the Chinese Singaporeans when I refer to ‘Singaporeans’. This, I hope, will not be taken as not acknowledging the complexity of the Singaporean society; instead, it’s because my limited experiences and insights do not allow me to speak on things which I do not know well.<br /><br />Just a‘PRC rude bumpkin’ or is there something deeper to it…?<br /><br />At the level of daily contact and interaction, many Singaporeans complain of some Chinese nationals’ coarseness, lack of etiquette, and rude behaviour; others are upset by the perceived aggressiveness or greediness.<br /><br />While for many keyboard warriors, these stereotypical perceptions of the Chinese have become the basis for their quasi-racist bashings, I notice that Singaporean commentators/scholars often refrain from even touching on these perceptions, presumably because of a fear that the mere mention of them would put them in line with those who are maliciously fixated on negatively stereotyping the "other". Thus, we lose an opportunity to look for a socio-cultural interpretation of these perceptions.<br /><br />First of all, as I suggested in my previous article, a lot of this has to do with class. In the case of the less privileged Chinese nationals in Singapore such as guest workers, the disdain felt towards them is essentially class-based: The (relatively-speaking) affluent Singaporeans find their behaviour "uncultivated" and "desperate", but sometimes forget that they may indeed be desperate to change their life fortunes through venturing abroad as immigrant labour. This is why disdain is rarely felt towards foreigners from developed countries, many of whom also carry the privileged racial marker (i.e. whiteness). Privileged foreigners in Singapore also tend to be relatively hidden from the public view, as they seldom use public transport or public housing; less contact reduces the chance of developing negative perceptions.<br /><br />But class is not all, because I think there is a more general sense among many Singaporeans that the Chinese (not necessarily just the less privileged ones but more broadly) don’t like to follow rules, and seem overly aggressive in obtaining or protecting their own interests. Trying to bargain when bargaining is not accepted, not willing to "lose out" in the slightest, disregard of the public interest in order to suit private interests, etc. are perhaps some of the examples that cause Singaporeans to regard Chinese as "uncivilised" or even "disgusting".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2348464617577736454.post-54510020583622280602014-02-26T20:33:52.536+08:002014-02-26T20:33:52.536+08:00Why Chinese nationals and S'poreans don't ...Why Chinese nationals and S'poreans don't always get along<br /><br />Short answer: Two Kiasu BUAY GAM<br /><br />Long answer:<br /><br />What might be behind the perceived rudeness or ‘country bumpkin’ image of some Chinese immigrants in Singapore? And can the tension between the Chinese and Singaporeans be explained as a kind of ‘sibling rivalry’ as some people seem to suggest?<br /><br />In dealing with such a topic, some degree of generalisation is unavoidable. I am aware of the pitfalls of essentialism and Orientalism, but that does not mean we cannot speak of certain socio-culturally shaped behaviours and subjectivities. Statements like “the Chinese are such and such…” or “the Singaporeans are such and such…” are inherently problematic, but have to be used from time to time if one is to talk about these issues at all.<br /><br />So I crave the readers’ indulgence in bearing with me, while recognising—and recognising that I do recognise too—that social facts are always complicated and nuanced. Again, in my following discussion, I shall be primarily concerned with the Chinese Singaporeans when I refer to ‘Singaporeans’. This, I hope, will not be taken as not acknowledging the complexity of the Singaporean society; instead, it’s because my limited experiences and insights do not allow me to speak on things which I do not know well.<br /><br />Just a‘PRC rude bumpkin’ or is there something deeper to it…?<br /><br />At the level of daily contact and interaction, many Singaporeans complain of some Chinese nationals’ coarseness, lack of etiquette, and rude behaviour; others are upset by the perceived aggressiveness or greediness.<br /><br />While for many keyboard warriors, these stereotypical perceptions of the Chinese have become the basis for their quasi-racist bashings, I notice that Singaporean commentators/scholars often refrain from even touching on these perceptions, presumably because of a fear that the mere mention of them would put them in line with those who are maliciously fixated on negatively stereotyping the "other". Thus, we lose an opportunity to look for a socio-cultural interpretation of these perceptions.<br /><br />First of all, as I suggested in my previous article, a lot of this has to do with class. In the case of the less privileged Chinese nationals in Singapore such as guest workers, the disdain felt towards them is essentially class-based: The (relatively-speaking) affluent Singaporeans find their behaviour "uncultivated" and "desperate", but sometimes forget that they may indeed be desperate to change their life fortunes through venturing abroad as immigrant labour. This is why disdain is rarely felt towards foreigners from developed countries, many of whom also carry the privileged racial marker (i.e. whiteness). Privileged foreigners in Singapore also tend to be relatively hidden from the public view, as they seldom use public transport or public housing; less contact reduces the chance of developing negative perceptions.<br /><br />But class is not all, because I think there is a more general sense among many Singaporeans that the Chinese (not necessarily just the less privileged ones but more broadly) don’t like to follow rules, and seem overly aggressive in obtaining or protecting their own interests. Trying to bargain when bargaining is not accepted, not willing to "lose out" in the slightest, disregard of the public interest in order to suit private interests, etc. are perhaps some of the examples that cause Singaporeans to regard Chinese as "uncivilised" or even "disgusting".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2348464617577736454.post-16100102857046348932014-02-26T13:47:58.546+08:002014-02-26T13:47:58.546+08:00Racist... or intolerant of bad behaviour? That'...Racist... or intolerant of bad behaviour? That's why I say you don't understand Singapore. Any Singaporean would know why I don't want PRC maids. <br /><br />I won't deny racism exists in Singapore. But to say hire PRC maids just because they are Chinese, no, Singaporeans are not blindly race oriented. Do we look up to mainland China? Also no. I'm sure even from over there, you can see we are not happy with the mass immigration of PRCs.<br /><br />There have been some killings by Indonesian maids over the years. I will say some of these employers provoked it. With PRC maids instead, we can only speculate what the numbers would have been.<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/user/LouisGoodHK/videosXnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2348464617577736454.post-12856519072097036692014-02-25T15:42:46.070+08:002014-02-25T15:42:46.070+08:00Why should never allowed PRC maid? Than it just r...Why should never allowed PRC maid? Than it just really show how racist you are. We are human should never judge others by their profession, skins, and social status.. we all just the same and should treat equally and look down to one another.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2348464617577736454.post-43342090850147754862014-02-25T14:54:36.854+08:002014-02-25T14:54:36.854+08:00Anon February 24, 2014 at 10:03 PM
PRC maid? No t...Anon February 24, 2014 at 10:03 PM<br /><br />PRC maid? No thanks. Never wanted and never should be allowed! You don't know Singapore. We are not blindly race oriented.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2348464617577736454.post-31067884911733371522014-02-25T14:52:40.298+08:002014-02-25T14:52:40.298+08:00David February 19, 2014 at 9:58 PM
Don't you ...David February 19, 2014 at 9:58 PM<br /><br />Don't you think the troll posts are a small number of unemployed bums on each "side"? Is this really a basis for serious study of "cyber world reaction"?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2348464617577736454.post-56973827154923253782014-02-24T22:03:09.504+08:002014-02-24T22:03:09.504+08:00For the maid, no worries...
You can ask auntie or...For the maid, no worries...<br /><br />You can ask auntie or your mother to take care your child. or maybe you prefer bangladeshi, pinay, or Myanmar. I knew you prefer PRC but your wife would not be allowed ;p<br /><br />Indonesian prefer their fellow citizen not work at Singapore, and tortured like mostly uncivilized singaporean did with their maid.<br /><br />http://singaporeseen.stomp.com.sg/singaporeseen/this-urban-jungle/maid-felt-like-dying-after-being-kicked-repeatedly-by-boss<br /><br />http://domesticworkerabuse.pbworks.com/w/page/18056687/FrontPageAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2348464617577736454.post-69912828347981095852014-02-24T21:50:38.777+08:002014-02-24T21:50:38.777+08:00The Upstream Oil and Gas Regulator (SKK Migas) sai...The Upstream Oil and Gas Regulator (SKK Migas) said Singapore buyers would stop importing gas via pipelines from Indonesia after the import contracts expire.<br /><br />"They would not seek extension of contracts as Singapore already has the floating storage and regasification unit (FSRU) facility," acting chief of the SKK Migas J Widjonarko said.<br /><br />With the FSRU facility gas supply via pipelines to Singapore would be stopped, Widjonarko said here on Wednesday before a meeting with the lawmakers.<br /><br />Currently Indonesia exports gas to Singapore via pipelines of PT Trans Gas Indonesia from Natuna islands of Riau and South Sumatra across the Malacca strait.<br /><br />Exports include 300 MMSFD from the Koridor block in South Sumatra operated by ConocoPhillips and 100 MMSFD from Natuna Sea block in the Natuna islands operated by Premier Oil BV.<br /><br />The gas buyers in Singapore are Sembawang Corporation and Gas Singapore Pvt Ltd (GSPL).<br /><br />Widjonarko said SKK Migas is ready to implement the government regulation on National Energy Policy (KEN) that calls for stoppage of gas exports.<br /><br />"We are ready with the plan to build gas infrastructure. When the infrastructure has been available, gas export is no longer needed," he said.<br /><br />Currently a number of gas infrastructure projects are under construction such as Gresik-Semarang-Cirebon-Jakarta and Arun-Belawan, Lampung, Central Java, Banten, and Cilacap gas pipelines.<br /><br />Widjanarko said there are not many gas export contracts left other than export via pipeline contracts with Singapore and Malaysia.<br /><br />"There are only ones with Chinas Fujian, Japan and South Korea which would expire this year," he said.<br /><br />Commercial deputy of SKK Migas Widhyawan Prawiraatmadja said gas exports could be stopped under "interruptable" contract.<br /><br />"When the domestic buyers need the gas the exports could be stopped," he said.<br /><br />The regulation on National Energy Policy requires the government to stop exports of gas and coal to guarantee domestic supply.<br /><br />The House of Representatives has approved the regulation drafted by the National Energy Council for the 2013-2050 period.<br /><br />The regulation says national energy requirement is fulfilled such as by cutting or stopping exports.<br /><br />There has been calls for cutting or stopping exports of gas and coal to meet growing domestic demand for alternative energy amid soaring oil prices.<br /><br />Source: Antara NewsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2348464617577736454.post-5357423337067307952014-02-24T21:46:23.021+08:002014-02-24T21:46:23.021+08:00For Natuna will be the best if Singapore stop buyi...For Natuna will be the best if Singapore stop buying.<br /><br />There is huge demand from Indonesia market. The Gas selling below market price. So it will be very good if this gas only selling for Indonesia market instead of selling discount to YAYA Papaya Silly-poor.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2348464617577736454.post-79501229967843470212014-02-24T21:39:43.238+08:002014-02-24T21:39:43.238+08:00Telkom Prioritizes Telkomsel Buyback, Aims To Make...Telkom Prioritizes Telkomsel Buyback, Aims To Make it 100% Indonesian<br /><br />elkom is still aiming to get its 35 percent share back from Singapore Telecom (SingTel). The company has made it a priority over its other plans, including acquiring Indosat StarOne.<br /><br />This buyback issue goes all the way back to 2008. But the pressure is recently getting stronger since government mandated it in a general meeting of Telkom shareholders in May. It encouraged the company, as Telkomsel’s holding company, to complete its share ownership and make it a 100 percent Indonesian cellular company.<br /><br />The company’s CEO, Rinaldi Firmansyah, was quoted by Bisnis Indonesia as saying that the Telkom will prioritize buyback within the year. He also said that management had informally communicated the buyback plan with SingTel.<br /><br />This subsequently resulted in the stalling of Telkom’s plan to acquire Indosat StarOne. Even though it aspired to consolidate StarOne with Telkom Flexi, it seems they don’t want to lose the opportunity to boost Telkomsel’s business through a buyback.<br /><br />Telkom is still waiting for Indosat to follow up on its proposal.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2348464617577736454.post-74944382009318926632014-02-24T21:04:50.883+08:002014-02-24T21:04:50.883+08:00Yup just do it quickly dude.
Indonesia eagerly ki...Yup just do it quickly dude.<br /><br />Indonesia eagerly kickout Temasek Investment in telco and banking.<br /><br />The same like Thailand kick Thaksin because selling Shin Corp to Singapore.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2348464617577736454.post-82965617029162010992014-02-24T21:04:30.004+08:002014-02-24T21:04:30.004+08:00Yup just do it quickly dude.
Indonesia eagerly ki...Yup just do it quickly dude.<br /><br />Indonesia eagerly kickout Temasek Investment in telco and banking.<br /><br />The same like Thailand kick Thaksin because selling Shin Corp to Singapore. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2348464617577736454.post-57805501187823729352014-02-24T20:08:24.362+08:002014-02-24T20:08:24.362+08:00How childish..if we are that immature, we would ha...How childish..if we are that immature, we would have pulled out our investments in indonesia causing hundreds of thousands or more job loses. Singapore has been the no.1 or no.2 top investor in Indonesia for years. No more billions from Natuna deal, tens of thousands of maids sent home with no income for their families, no more possibility of agreement on extradition policy, Batam collapses economically, etc. So yeah. We are not so evil. But the Indonesian government knows the possible losses.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2348464617577736454.post-21721074550490002602014-02-24T12:09:58.230+08:002014-02-24T12:09:58.230+08:00No need to be friend with Indonesian.
You can ca...No need to be friend with Indonesian. <br /><br />You can cancelled all joint military, stop gas supply from Natuna, Food stocks & Fruit supply, Sands, granite, banned man power, sailor, Investor from Indonesia.<br /><br />Singapore so good no need other country.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2348464617577736454.post-26215074891905962512014-02-24T10:59:43.432+08:002014-02-24T10:59:43.432+08:00he!he! Indonesian are proud of their military migh...he!he! Indonesian are proud of their military might just like the japanese in following orders. And we know that the soldiers blind obedience cause untold misery. Thus these soldiers have no humanity/soul in them. This says a lot about indonesians in general if they cannot distinguish between right and wrong. Why does anyone want to be friends with them?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2348464617577736454.post-37308532129711680932014-02-23T20:45:34.291+08:002014-02-23T20:45:34.291+08:00As it is our right to point out that these two cha...As it is our right to point out that these two chaps are nothing more than terrorists as per international law. In invading the Federation, Indonesia is no different then Japan or Germany. Your acts of naming a ship after terrorists and waging a war must be made known to the world. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2348464617577736454.post-92132332148992247542014-02-23T17:57:21.224+08:002014-02-23T17:57:21.224+08:00I know all Singaporeans are so proud with their we...I know all Singaporeans are so proud with their wealth and look down upon others in the region.<br /><br />But we will still use the "Usman Harun" name. Both marines are honored for their steadfastness to obey order. I'm sure many Indonesians prefer that they attacked military targets during their mission, instead of a bank. But I assure you, we are not celebrating the death of Singaporean citizens. We are seeing their sacrifice and their willingness to give their lives for the country. NKRInoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2348464617577736454.post-23232232792722807992014-02-21T13:19:52.986+08:002014-02-21T13:19:52.986+08:00Lol anon 7.13am. When Sgreans think of Indonesia, ...Lol anon 7.13am. When Sgreans think of Indonesia, the first thing that comes to our minds are maids, corruption and Balis naked beaches.im sure that is the same for many countries. Indonesia is still an under developed country. As for your big country chip on the shoulder, we did not accede to Suhartos request to not hang the terrorists. We did not accede to your extradiction request unless you first oblige to our demanda in the dca. Youre funny. Going to war over a name? If we go to war, we will be seen as the offending party.We merely want to punish you by shaming you. Yup..lil red dot teaching you a lesson in manners. Also, to follow your logic on big countries, you should withdraw from nam, asean and un. You funny lah pak.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2348464617577736454.post-89507967166931006472014-02-21T07:40:27.818+08:002014-02-21T07:40:27.818+08:00Singapore calls off 2014
Patkor Indosin
Fadli, T...Singapore calls off 2014 <br />Patkor Indosin<br /><br />Fadli, The Jakarta Post, Batam | World | Thu, February 20 2014, 10:05 PM<br /><br />The Singaporean navy has called off a coordinated patrol that should have started on Monday, an Indonesian Navy officer said on Thursday.<br /><br />“The Singaporean navy, under the coordination of the Singapore Maritime Security Task Force [MSTF] has requested the 2014 Patkor Indosin be rescheduled to March,” the Indonesian Navy’s Western Fleet Maritime Security Task Force (Guskamla) chief Cmdr. Harjo Susmoro told The Jakarta Post on Thursday.<br /><br />“We cannot fulfill the request because we have the 2014 Komodo Exercise in March.”<br /><br />Harjo said the Navy would still carry on with the patrol despite the absence of Singapore.<br /><br />He said usually the Patkor Indosin took place in the Singapore Strait and Philips Strait and involved four Indonesian warships and two from the Singaporean side.<br /><br />“The coordinated patrol is very effective to handle transnational crimes,” he said.<br /><br />The coordinated patrol started in 1992 with Harjo saying that in addition to the patrol, the MSTF and Guskamla also usually held a social activity.<br /><br />Harjo did want to speculate whether Singapore's pullout was related to the naming of the KRI Usman-Harun, which has sparked protests from Singapore. (nvn)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2348464617577736454.post-45392678277729838692014-02-20T23:18:23.220+08:002014-02-20T23:18:23.220+08:00Ha Ha Ha David. You make off budget funding sound ...Ha Ha Ha David. You make off budget funding sound so sinister. It is normal practice.<br /><br />Politically it sounds nice to have a ceiling but in practice this is often not what happens in reality.<br /><br />Take the UK for example, their Nuclear submarine funding comes from Ministry of Finance not from the Ministry of Defence. They also have a string of off budget mechanism such as PPI like the funding of the Warthog did not come from Ministry of Defence but through BAE systems via PPI.<br /><br />Off budget funding could also be indirect for example, R&D credit, etc to seemingly "private" company.<br /><br />Don't get so work up about it. The 6 percent is for politics, which is necessary, just like US debt ceiling.<br /><br />The real issue with off budget funding is whether you have visibility. Take Spain, Iceland and Ireland, before the crisis the governments were so prudent that these countries hardly had any debt. In fact compared to Singapore public debt they were the good boys.<br /><br />But what these countries was not aware off were the banks and in Spain regional government where the combined debt was bigger than the public finance. The debt of these "private" entities was so much bigger than their welfare spending.<br /><br />Personally I won't be alarm on face value if "official" defence spending is not "capped" at 6%. Nor am I necessarily worried that it could be more than 6% if you took into account other accounting methods. The real question is whatever the level is it sustainable. What that level is anybody's guess.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2348464617577736454.post-33826359161501751522014-02-20T22:04:24.849+08:002014-02-20T22:04:24.849+08:00http://www.tremeritus.com/2014/02/19/dr-ng-condemn...http://www.tremeritus.com/2014/02/19/dr-ng-condemns-tis-defence-spending-rating-for-sg/<br /><br />Lehman Brothers was also a publicly audited and look what happens when.<br /><br />At this stage who really knows about the state of defence spending anyway.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com