tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2348464617577736454.post2109963068229490184..comments2024-03-16T15:49:59.567+08:00Comments on Senang Diri: Revamped Singapore Army infantry section gives soldiers much punch... and adds to alphabet soup of military acronymsDavid Boeyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11401913253357584603noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2348464617577736454.post-28039449772441874872011-07-20T14:54:58.813+08:002011-07-20T14:54:58.813+08:00I can't imagine the amount of 1206 those over ...I can't imagine the amount of 1206 those over loaded NSFs have to sign. At the first inkling of a hasty retreat, one would most likely discard heavy equipment.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2348464617577736454.post-23395078589512356182011-07-19T16:16:37.136+08:002011-07-19T16:16:37.136+08:001st and 2nd Mat? That's the best name they cou...1st and 2nd Mat? That's the best name they could come up with?!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2348464617577736454.post-31277000078606818552011-07-18T23:34:43.082+08:002011-07-18T23:34:43.082+08:00Hi above,
The 7-man Section comprises two teams (T...Hi above,<br />The 7-man Section comprises two teams (Team 1 and Team 2) with the same small arms (SAR-21, SAR-21/M203, SAW) led by a Section Commander.<br /><br />The three soldiers on the right are Team 1 while the leftmost three make up Team 2.<br /><br />The arrangement seen above is for Urban Ops.<br /><br />Cheers,<br />DavidDavid Boeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11401913253357584603noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2348464617577736454.post-83317427248372722762011-07-18T23:21:39.171+08:002011-07-18T23:21:39.171+08:00David, would you care to enlighten if the SAF has ...David, would you care to enlighten if the SAF has moved from a 3-2-2 to a 1-3-3 section, or if the 3-2-2 arrangement remains?<br /><br />If the latter, I would interpret the picture to depict the SectCom's 3 man element in the middle. Has the SectCom's element has gained a SAW and lost an M-203? That is most unlikely and tactically illogical.<br /><br />Rather I sense the usual shoddy work here: misleading captions having to fit a mis-posed picture. Students are unable to tell the difference anyway.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2348464617577736454.post-77556396778920634242011-07-18T23:14:17.545+08:002011-07-18T23:14:17.545+08:00Anonymous July 16 8:13AM I would do the exact oppo...Anonymous July 16 8:13AM I would do the exact opposite. To defeat an enemy in sparsely-populated, even jungle, terrain is easy. Removing him from an unpopulated urban area is costlier in SAF lives. To defeat an enemy hiding among a city-sized civilian urban population would take an Iraq-style surge, something the SAF can ill-afford to do. You appear to have derived the wrong lessons from Iraq.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2348464617577736454.post-74850643416047480222011-07-16T10:14:14.351+08:002011-07-16T10:14:14.351+08:00Something out of topic here. Today's 90c paper...Something out of topic here. Today's 90c paper's article on Chinese aircraft carrier quoted that Russians deploy the Yak-41M. The Yak-41M (also known as Yak-141) never get past the few developmental airframes.<br /><br />Defence articles in the 90c should improved on their contents.zjznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2348464617577736454.post-49268166716311835542011-07-16T08:15:26.758+08:002011-07-16T08:15:26.758+08:00RE : Goggles...and I thought they were good for sw...RE : Goggles...and I thought they were good for swimming too.<br /><br />Ballistic eye glasses. What we really need.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2348464617577736454.post-71971645091579828942011-07-16T08:13:35.306+08:002011-07-16T08:13:35.306+08:00Hi David,
Thanks for the clarification. Makes mor...Hi David,<br /><br />Thanks for the clarification. Makes more sense.<br /><br />I suppose I could see a 7 man section with adequte support from terrex working in an Urban setting.<br /><br />but I'm still not convinced with the lack of manpower in mixed terrain/vegetation.<br /><br />I still think we are thin if the battleground moves away from urban areas.<br /><br />It is right to develop an emphasis on urban terrain but I wonder if we are diminishing our ability to fight in more forested area.<br /><br />Afterall, if I was the enemy (Taking lessons learnt from Iraq) I would relinquish the urban landscape and use the jungle to out manouver (hit own time own target)as in Afghanistan (with the mountains)<br /><br />Hopefully SAF takes the sensible step IMO and has 2 types of infantry organization. One for urban/mechanised warfare and one for more jungle intensive terrain.<br /><br />Look forward to your explanation on the acronyms!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2348464617577736454.post-31043853362050215482011-07-16T00:04:39.607+08:002011-07-16T00:04:39.607+08:00Hi Anonymous 15 July 11:54 PM,
This image was part...Hi Anonymous 15 July 11:54 PM,<br />This image was part of an infoboard showing how an SAF Infantry Section might be equipped for urban ops.<br /><br />Cheers,<br />DavidDavid Boeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11401913253357584603noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2348464617577736454.post-8184159227218813762011-07-15T23:56:49.954+08:002011-07-15T23:56:49.954+08:00Hi Anonymous 15 July 1:20PM,
The goggles I brought...Hi Anonymous 15 July 1:20PM,<br />The goggles I brought along for Ops Flying Eagle was among the top five Most Useful items during OFE. <br /><br />Wearing them allowed picture taking to continue safely at improvised helipads while rotor downwash was blowing debris all over the place.<br /><br />SAF NSFs are now issued with ESS goggles. A good piece of kit. I believe they wear them only when needed and don't have it over their face all the time.<br /><br />re: MAF section. Agree on the 40mm multi-shot grenade launcher.<br /><br />DavidDavid Boeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11401913253357584603noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2348464617577736454.post-36085375534522449762011-07-15T23:54:11.136+08:002011-07-15T23:54:11.136+08:00Doesn't look like this section is geared to fi...Doesn't look like this section is geared to fight in dense forest terrain..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2348464617577736454.post-45381023278827022122011-07-15T13:20:27.477+08:002011-07-15T13:20:27.477+08:00Sorry, haven't quite finished...
those goggle...Sorry, haven't quite finished...<br /><br />those goggles, are the men suppose to go on dirtbikes?<br /><br />I haven't had a chance to try them on but I'd wager the goggles are fine for short duration operations (like wayang show). On longer duration, they'll propbably start coming off very quickly (and I'm talking on the soldier's own elect). Hot and foggy comes to mind.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2348464617577736454.post-52768815663800636292011-07-15T13:03:13.894+08:002011-07-15T13:03:13.894+08:00Finally M203 on a SAR makes no sense. We're al...Finally M203 on a SAR makes no sense. We're already thin on the ground, the last thing we need is thin firepower.<br /><br />A South African Streetcleaner, automated grenade launcher (of the type employed by the MAF) is the way to go. <br /><br />Sling the weapon at the back or attach securely to LBV. It will allow both grenadiers greater dexterity (with SAR21 piccatiny rails)and they could be better task to carry some of these other 'mysterious acronyms'.<br /><br />Current section on display in hokkien terms: "Ho Kua Bo Ho Cjia" :PAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2348464617577736454.post-47678421760590534362011-07-15T12:55:40.589+08:002011-07-15T12:55:40.589+08:00Both Matador and SAW are a pain in the ass in clos...Both Matador and SAW are a pain in the ass in close terrain.<br /><br />Matador (slung) impedes movement.<br /><br />SAW (With all it's length and pertrubrance)is hard to manouever through jungle.<br /><br />Presumably the SAF plans to hold nodes of communication and stick to junctions and roads rather than venture too deep into jungle.<br /><br />The enemy may not be so cooperative.They may cede territory and hit on all sides on their own time.<br /><br />Modern ISR surveillance works to a degree in open territory. Jungle terrain is a different matter.It will still need clearing through ardous foot slogging.<br /><br />There are limits still to tech. If we can't get the basics right, then we've started on the wrong foot IMO.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2348464617577736454.post-75452298994290066862011-07-15T12:46:51.522+08:002011-07-15T12:46:51.522+08:00With regards the 7 men section, it's too thin ...With regards the 7 men section, it's too thin for operations in medium density vegetation IMO.<br /><br />I was with a 7 men section in Reservist. YOu only needed a couple of Keng kings, several calling in sick or injured and your platton (forget section) was down to the teens. Hardly useful for covering in dense terrain.<br /><br />7 men section IMO works OK for mechanised troops but is lightweight in even light jungle.<br /><br />Then there's the cumbersome 3 group section movement. Looks like they have replaced it with 2 teams but where does the section leader go?<br /><br />Probably easier if coordination was restricted to odds and evens but there should be at least 4 per group.<br /><br />IMO 8 men is minimum. The extra man MUST be a medic. One platoon medic is a complete joke when the shooting starts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2348464617577736454.post-33434971534512348542011-07-15T12:40:35.564+08:002011-07-15T12:40:35.564+08:00One other thing, all these fancy gadgets, why does...One other thing, all these fancy gadgets, why doesn't the SAF invest in proper ballistic eyewear for our soldiers, being that we have a rather high incidence of myopia (no pun intended);)<br /><br />Some of the scout sections (and indeed I'm now seeing Commandos)have pretty thick prescriptions. Someone loses their pair in thick terrain, they are a liability and pretty well useless IMO.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2348464617577736454.post-1889797438371315392011-07-15T10:04:25.721+08:002011-07-15T10:04:25.721+08:00For a 7-men section, there is still some buffer to...For a 7-men section, there is still some buffer to accomodate for casualties. In my opinion, up to 3 casualties can be sustained before the section becomes ineffectual. <br /><br />The remaining 4 men, divided into two 2-men teams can still be an effective fighting force operating within a platoon.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2348464617577736454.post-27145741836042842302011-07-15T09:51:59.927+08:002011-07-15T09:51:59.927+08:00two ultimax... awesometwo ultimax... awesomeGaGaKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07774419482625634524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2348464617577736454.post-2557823716173648372011-07-14T23:07:00.341+08:002011-07-14T23:07:00.341+08:00Yes, I remembered it was down to 8, but 7 was real...Yes, I remembered it was down to 8, but 7 was really thin.Callsign 24http://militarynuts.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2348464617577736454.post-79141024138420944832011-07-14T14:33:27.260+08:002011-07-14T14:33:27.260+08:00Callsign24, yes it has been this way for 25 years ...Callsign24, yes it has been this way for 25 years now. They started with 9 and went down to 8 and 7 a long time ago.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2348464617577736454.post-25375403036316095962011-07-13T23:14:59.283+08:002011-07-13T23:14:59.283+08:00Is this for real?..our latest org for section leve...Is this for real?..our latest org for section level, 7 nos is freaking thin for mancount.Callsign 24http://militarynuts.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2348464617577736454.post-2373624793240680302011-07-13T21:53:21.630+08:002011-07-13T21:53:21.630+08:00There was a pretty comprehensive ACMS display at T...There was a pretty comprehensive ACMS display at Temasek Polytechnic on SAF Day (1 July'11).<br /><br />Intend to write more. Have been busy coordinating polytechnic internships for Sept'11, plus the start of the CRs means half the weekend is spent stalking the rehearsals.David Boeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11401913253357584603noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2348464617577736454.post-70320565131147806742011-07-13T17:29:29.072+08:002011-07-13T17:29:29.072+08:00All the bells and whistles.
Once one of them star...All the bells and whistles.<br /><br />Once one of them starts to bleed, the rest will faint.<br /><br />And btw, none of them will fire weapon without earplugs on.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2348464617577736454.post-29018816183901729532011-07-13T14:24:18.326+08:002011-07-13T14:24:18.326+08:00Thanks David. Would you care to point us to more d...Thanks David. Would you care to point us to more detailed info if any is available online? As the depiction is not clear, I am unsure if the section is now split into two teams instead of three. A glossary of the acronyms would be helpful.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2348464617577736454.post-39241336256151568082011-07-11T20:55:42.372+08:002011-07-11T20:55:42.372+08:00Ouch ! The first thought that comes to mind is hea...Ouch ! The first thought that comes to mind is heat exhaustion....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com