tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2348464617577736454.post4752451881866880620..comments2024-03-28T21:39:05.175+08:00Comments on Senang Diri: Singapore Armed Forces (SAF) projects forces at long-range to Queensland, Australia, for Exercise Wallaby 2013David Boeyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11401913253357584603noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2348464617577736454.post-75166661537387734162013-10-13T17:42:59.091+08:002013-10-13T17:42:59.091+08:00Well, you think your father is Tony Tan or LKY or ...Well, you think your father is Tony Tan or LKY or LHL...can go and leave whenever you like meh... Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2348464617577736454.post-26564518557437520012013-10-13T12:19:24.221+08:002013-10-13T12:19:24.221+08:00My statement is a purely technical view, not a pol...My statement is a purely technical view, not a political complaint. I did not say I am not happy <br />to defend Singapore or to serve NS. If one cannot even raise the topic, then what is the point of making everyone serve in silence by force of law?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2348464617577736454.post-30260881017442672372013-10-12T11:07:40.289+08:002013-10-12T11:07:40.289+08:00I'm a bit on ah seng's side of the issue, ...I'm a bit on ah seng's side of the issue, the world is so globalised nowadays that you can literally immigrate anywhere. I got a cousin in Iceland and an aunt in New Zealand, so if Singapore is so bad, why not just move? Why stay and complain so much? PR out and the army can't even touch you, so why waste time complaining about it when you can just move? Unless you can't be bothered to solve a problem and would rather someone else do everything for you, in which case, no matter NS or no NS, you will always find something to complain about. Because the problem isn't with the system.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2348464617577736454.post-37727631667810665612013-10-11T10:54:53.152+08:002013-10-11T10:54:53.152+08:00Aiyoh, like that also can say meh.Aiyoh, like that also can say meh.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2348464617577736454.post-4769207842926719882013-10-11T08:53:35.100+08:002013-10-11T08:53:35.100+08:00If you hate NS so much, please migrate elsewhere. ...If you hate NS so much, please migrate elsewhere. Shame on you as a Singaporean... If no NS, we would be annexed by Malaysia and Indonesia long time ago... Please pack your bags and go away, so many unpatriotic scumb*gs here.ah sengnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2348464617577736454.post-23972822244338767732013-10-10T12:13:40.755+08:002013-10-10T12:13:40.755+08:00Singapore has the second longest NS in the world n...Singapore has the second longest NS in the world now, after Israel. (After Taiwan and South Korea cut their NS.)<br /><br />Even Germany and other Western European countries at the height of the Cold War did not have such a long NS while providing an effective defence for 50 years.<br /><br />I've always believed there are three blocs of NS systems. The Western Europeans who had a practical length of NS (NS measured in months), the now defunct Soviet bloc (about 2 years) and the kiasu East Asian countries including Taiwan (formerly 2 years), South Korea (formerly 26 months) and us who had some of the longest NS in the world but have since cut.<br /><br />Of course, some people will come and draw comparisons like the US providing a nuclear umbrella to Germany etc.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2348464617577736454.post-32231926814824522013-10-10T10:53:56.505+08:002013-10-10T10:53:56.505+08:00Quote:
Back in the days when I did my 2 years 4 mo...Quote:<br />Back in the days when I did my 2 years 4 months of National Service, it never crossed my mind whether the system was fair or unfair to us guys with regard to the opposite sex or to foreigners.<br /><br />That is not to say that I enjoyed NS. In fact, like many others, I think of it as the biggest waste of time in my life. I hated it, from all the regimental restrictions to the stupid wayangs to an unmeritocratic system where a veteran warrant officer has to address a commissioned officer fresh out of OCS as “Sir”. The last bit is one I could never come to terms with. To me, there must be something inherently wrong with a system where one is forever consigned to an inferior rank from the career path chosen at the outset that no amount of performance or further education could fix.<br /><br />I can still remember the day I walked out of camp on my ORD. I’ve never felt so exhilarated and relieved. This must be how it feels to get out of jail, I thought to myself, while conscious of the fact that I would be back in a few years’ time for in-camp training. Since then, I have done a handful of ICTs and they only served to reinforce my opinion of NS being extremely unproductive. There were days when I spent entire afternoons hanging out in a specialist mess because the supervisors had nothing for us to do.<br /><br />That is why it baffles me when people say our defence will be compromised if NS is cut even shorter from the current two years. Have they seen how unproductively time is spent and all the silly wayang shows we waste time on when a VIP visits?<br /><br />Despite my misgivings, I just took it as something I had to do and didn’t think much of it. It’s like, okay, I wasted 2 plus years of my life but it’s the same with every guy. People in other countries could spend many more years rebuilding their lives after a war, after all. I’m not saying that Singapore is safe because we have NS — truth is nobody will know how effective it is until something bad happens — but that it’s really pointless to compare.<br /><br />I have a former colleague of my age who is a Malaysian-turned-Singaporean holding a cushy job in our civil service and living in a HDB flat. When he told me he never did NS, my reaction was more of “you lucky bastard!” than to curse at him for taking advantage of our system, as some unhappy Singaporeans may accuse him of. I do not fault him partly because, as we know, the problem is with the system and partly because I don’t feel I’m entitled to anything different for having served NS. In fact, such a notion of entitlement or being more deserving of whatever it is had never occurred to me until recent years when this issue became a hot topic.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2348464617577736454.post-62854207503959793612013-10-10T00:53:38.238+08:002013-10-10T00:53:38.238+08:00All f16s are carrying sniper podsAll f16s are carrying sniper podsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2348464617577736454.post-2029373356472956342013-10-09T21:24:18.950+08:002013-10-09T21:24:18.950+08:00Dear Anon 5:08 PM and 6:14 PM,
re: No-notice deplo...Dear Anon 5:08 PM and 6:14 PM,<br />re: No-notice deployments. Do consider the following:<br /><br />1997: Operation Crimson Angel. Non-combatant evacuation operation of Singaporeans from Phnom Penh, Cambodia, flown by 122 SQN's C-130s.<br /><br /> <br />2004: Operation Flying Eagle. SAF deployment to Indonesia and Thailand for earthquake/tsunami relief. <br /><br />re: Ex Wallaby 2013. <br />In addition to the RSAF elements, there is also a Ro-Ro that will bring more than 300 vehicles to SWBTA. In toto, several thousand souls will be airlifted there. Munitions also have to get there somehow.<br /><br />Your esteemed point of view that it is a milk run is inconsonant with how the study of warfare would define such a movement of arms. <br /><br />Anyway, our Australian plane spotter friends have more pictures to share from Rockhampton. :)<br /><br />Best regards,<br /><br /><br />DavidDavid Boeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11401913253357584603noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2348464617577736454.post-69073501402060512382013-10-09T18:14:32.473+08:002013-10-09T18:14:32.473+08:00Yes, agree, this is more of a milk run rather th...Yes, agree, this is more of a milk run rather than force projection. Unless SAF deploy a full squadron with a full battalion with its support elements, in a single time frame, that is logistical marvel. <br />Rsaf do send large force elements to Asia Pacific ex, but 6 vipers and 3 Chinook, personally doesn't cut it. On NS, I agree, from a father of 2 sons, I agree, NS men should be given higher 'allowance' but not equal to regulars. Please gentlemen, stop bashing malaysia and vice versa or any country for that matter, show some maturity. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2348464617577736454.post-50005165785494575112013-10-09T17:08:17.664+08:002013-10-09T17:08:17.664+08:00A peace-time, long-planned-for, workplan deploymen...A peace-time, long-planned-for, workplan deployment is not that much of a show of capability, especially when this is somewhat of a yearly milk-run. Not to take credit away from the troops involved, it is still a hefty exercise in planning and execution. However when running a re/deployment "under duress" (for example, a no-notice humanitarian assistance operation or a military show-of-force/peace-support operation (preferably somewhere distant) would be a greater/truer test of capability.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2348464617577736454.post-21233016462320306422013-10-09T10:28:10.982+08:002013-10-09T10:28:10.982+08:00Right, are we in Malaysia..
Why can't they gi...Right, are we in Malaysia..<br /><br />Why can't they give NS men the full pay as the Regulars....Arn't they doing the same job, and they (NSF men) did not volunteer for the job leh.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2348464617577736454.post-68509965175272088382013-10-09T08:58:51.662+08:002013-10-09T08:58:51.662+08:00foreigners have already bought a big percentage of...foreigners have already bought a big percentage of the houses/properties in jb/iskandar m'sia. and also, those "exercises" conducted in jb's "health centres" are a lot more "fun".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2348464617577736454.post-7853816085357957682013-10-09T00:15:12.950+08:002013-10-09T00:15:12.950+08:00What has this to do with 'miserable pay' ?...What has this to do with 'miserable pay' ? <br /><br />NSF allowances are meant to supplement basic living expenses. 2 years of NS is not a career, it is a service to the nation...its not a full-salary drawing job.<br /><br />Stop being such a loser..<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2348464617577736454.post-40982193279793945982013-10-08T19:06:04.934+08:002013-10-08T19:06:04.934+08:00Dear Anonymous: Aiyoh... What miserable pay are yo...Dear Anonymous: Aiyoh... What miserable pay are you talking? look at the poor military men working in malaysia. They were paid little but never complain. NS is our responsibility, if you hate the system, get lost aka migrate from Singapore~ Nobody wants you here.<br /><br />Using S'pore airlines also bring some money back to us la bro... <br /><br />Hope we can do real "exercise" in JB instead. Much more "fun". Let them see our planes :) ah sengnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2348464617577736454.post-59146705530015135902013-10-08T16:29:04.717+08:002013-10-08T16:29:04.717+08:00Wow, and miserable pay for National Service men......Wow, and miserable pay for National Service men...<br /><br />Wow, wow..big bucks to the airlines.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2348464617577736454.post-55105078600571401672013-10-08T13:37:36.144+08:002013-10-08T13:37:36.144+08:00SAF boleh !SAF boleh !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com